
I have been made aware of an anomaly between the EU member states and the agreed TCA… #passportstampingupdate #passport2022
Due to Brexit Brits have lost their freedom of movement across 27 EU member states but also British Expats I mean Immigrants who have the right to stay… As a British immigrant, I can live here in France as the French does with some caveats with my new Titre de Sejour… But I cannot move to Spain and benefit from a similar arrangement that was negotiated in the TCA… without applying for residence, as any third-country national would have to… or even a Golden Visa if I was a rich Tory scumbag…
But what does my newfound post-Brexit French residence card allow me to do? Well, In combination with my passport, and new residence document enables me to travel within the Schengen countries for up to 90 days within a 180-day period… just like any third Country Nationals with a Schengen visa as tagged onto the TCA. However, it does not allow you to work in or move to other countries. To do that, you require permission from the other country concerned. Your residence document does not constitute any form of entitlement outside the Schengen countries. That also applies to the EU member states that are not Schengen states, i.e. Bulgaria, Croatia, Roma…
A further, limited possibility for mobility within the EU exists if you fulfil the conditions for a permanent EU residence permit or for the EU Blue Card… The EU Blue Card is Europe’s answer to the US Green Card.
The EU Blue Card is a work- and residence permit for non-EU/EEA nationals. The European Blue Card provides comprehensive socio-economic rights and a path toward permanent residence and EU citizenship…
But I digress what is the anomaly…
Transiting a country, which is when you enter a country to travel to another country… Let’s say I visit my family in the UK via Calais and Return to France and because I live in France with my CDS this is a simple journey…
Lets say I did not return to the continent directly to my home in France but flew into Italy to get a Pizza well those officials at the pesky border control stamped my passport with the date of arrival since my CDS was not any good since it is only valid in France… Coming close to my 90 days in 180 I stole e-bike and rode back to my home in France crossing no check points since I was still in schengen…
Now I have a potential problem if I want to travel to any other EU member state other to France that is…
What is that then, well I have one entry stamp and no exit stamp in my passport… and could be stopped, detained and rectally examinined then treated as an overstayer… You would hope that after explaining your situation and proving that you are resident in France the border police will wish you on your way… But a delay could very much make you late for the next step of your journey…
The EU’s new Entry/Exit System, expected next year, is intended to remove the requirement for stamping, as information about non-EU visitors to the Schengen area will have to be entered into a shared database when they cross Schengen borders, including taking a photograph and fingerprints and entry and exit dates
Non-EU travellers will be asked to submit photos and four fingerprints, which will be submitted in the form of biometric data.
This will also register the traveller’s name, travel documents and date and place of entry and exit.
But experts have previously warned the new scheme could cause chaos and significant problems at the Eurotunnel where people are arriving in cars.
Holidaymakers travelling to France have also been warned to expect delays at the ferry ports and Channel Tunnel next year when the scheme is launched.
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Here's an anomaly.
An EU citizen (Irish national) living in the UK since brexit now has more rights than his or her UK neighbors.
Being a citizen of an EU state allows for freedom of movement and employment. Also due to previous UK – Irish agreement citizens of UK and Ireland have reciprocal rights in each country.
Strange or what!
Tusk was right though was he not?lol
Ref the CDS,the first time we immigrants in France went to uk,just for a visit after Covid rules were relaxed, we gave our passports to Immigration at Oistreham and the gent asked if we had a CDS. We said yes, Ah!! you have to present that first to avoid the French authorities stamping your passport. Just my 2 penn'orth.
So where can’t we go , you take rubbish let’s hope you stay in france
Boo fucking hoo
11:03 – the "Tory" U.K government us planning divergence from the "E.U. GDPR". The question to be asked about this and endung other co-operation (integration) with the EU, such as the U.K. wanting to develop it's own GPS System, it's own CE (CA) mark, etc., is "WHY?"
"WHY?"
I have an "unlimited residency permit" for Germany. It's a bloomin' printed document that I can't find right now. Never thought I'd need to show it until "Coco the Clown" took the UK out of Europe (well, OK, out of the EU). After being conceived in Germany, but being "born" in the UK, I lived in Germany for 40 years. Now, I find out that I can more easily get a Polish passport, because my father fought in the (British) Polish Army in Normandy. It is utterly ridiculous – but, thank goodness, unlike other Brits, I actually have "hoops" I can jump through to regain my "Freedom of Movement"!
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…..and following on from that, once you're in the Schengen area (but not in your host country) how would the authorities now how long you're in that other EU country (so that the 90/180 clock can be started/stopped) as there are no regular checks at the borders. If you fly out of the EU via your host country, who would know where and for how long you've been elsewhere in the EU?
Yes, that's exactly the question I had (and have). I've found (so far anyway), that my German residence card means they won't stamp whilst coming directly into Germany from the UK. However, I did find that when I flew in to Sweden from the UK with the view to fly in a few days time to Germany they also didn't stamp my passport in Sweden because I told them that I had residence in an EU country whilst showing them my German residence card. So that seemed to work and my passport was left unstamped. Not saying that will work every time though… The E/E system apparently should not be used by EU resident Britons. We're told that we should avoid the scanners and go directly to a live immigration officer and present your residence card (whether or not the card is for that specific EU country). Let's see. There's bound to be loads of confusion till it all settles down….
Have you emailed the French immigration authorities (or other EU authorities) about not having an exit stamp?
If you're running a YouTube channel then surely you could email the press office part of the immigration authorities.
I watch your videos and you are a really weird bloke.
Aw what a shame. Why did they desert Britain in the first place.
As a British legal resident in Spain, when I entered Spain from the UK after a short break, I showed my residencia card and no one even liked looked at my pasport, just waved me through.
Can't you simply go to any police station on the day of arrival to your host country or the next day and get them to stamp your passport to show that you have entered your country of residence on time? The main thing is to prove that one left Schengen countdown rules before 90 days. We had a scare with my non EU citizen husband, as his passport was stamped when we entered Italy but not at exit, and again not when we entered Spain, very late/early flights. We asked at the Spanish airport for a police officer to stamp his passport just in case they wouldn't stamp it when entering the gate. They were doing it, so they raised an eyebrow but no problems whatsoever.
Why do so many British contributors on YouTube keep going on about “EU borders”? There’s no such thing as an EU border. The EU is not a country. It doesn’t have borders.
Why is it that so many British contributors to YouTube get this wrong? Why can’t they see that the EU is only a collection/partnership of 27 independent sovereign nations that have agreements together on some things but not other things?
These 27 nations have their own border controls with their own immigration policies and their own rules for various visitors entering into their respective countries.
Sometimes it might seem that some of these nations have similar rules and other times it’s obvious they don’t.
UK passports should have an identifier printed on them displaying which way the holder voted in the EU referendum.
This would make it much easier for sane people to be treated favourably at the EU's border controls.
I hope you are not lord ha ha
The man who planted trees, a short story, by jean giono.
On holiday South France this summer. Made sure we had all covid and location documents. There was no checks. Just stamp passports no questions or other documents needed. Seemed like we were still in EU.
Yeah, I've been looking at this. At the moment it doesn't cause us any problems, but if we do travel to another Schengen country the present thought is that we will need to enter and exit via an international airport – or I guess ferry port? – in order to ensure that there is a border agent that we can hopefully explain the situation to.
I can also see an issue for people travelling within Schengen by road; if stopped by police in a country that you are not resident in I don't know how they might react; they could conceivably and perhaps justifiably claim that you had been in their country for more than 90 days, leading to a healthy dose of shenanigans…
England is a failed state. Less UK. Less Britain. More England. The intelligent voters of Northern Ireland and Scotland rejected any Brexit.
Not having a card or anything that states you are a Uk resident is scary…everithing is online so if by any convenient reason😉 the site is haked…you are left with nothing and sent home🤔
Britmigrants.
But, but.. this was a Brexit promices, to get rid of freedom of movment.. so one can call it a Brexit benefit?
Mail to Rees–Moog, he have trouble to find brexit benefits!
we went to france via portsmouth 2 months ago we were checked on by brittany ferries staff but on arrival at cherbourg no border staff everyone just ended driving straight out of ferry port , so no entry stamp we did get an exit stamp at cherbourg ,we are going back on sunday fingers crossed
This information applies to 26 countries in the EU.
Ireland and the U.K. agreed the common travel area in 1922, predating entry by both countries into the EU/EEC.
This was written into a 'memorandum of understanding' in May 2019 – https://www.dfa.ie/media/dfa/eu/brexit/brexitandyou/Joint-Statement-CTA.pdf
The third country rules that now apply to the UK do not presently override this agreement.
Always interesting topics.
Scotland didn't sell its water. Nor has Wales. And both have a plethora of hydroelectric power stations, and Nuclear NIMBYS in England are against anything that might interfere. I'm sure England have some but are Reliant on others. As has been said by many others. But Mr Donald Tusk summed up BREXIT very well.
Not a Sketch of a plan to carry it out Successfully.
And you know, reading all the Comments on here and Twitter the English are coming to realise that maybe the Old People got it wrong Again.
Hi, you should be able to run your air conditioner using a) a mic with a tight cardioid pattern pointed away away from the noise source and b) noise cancellation software. There are many available priced from free to several hundred dollars (Euros). Even the free ones work pretty good. (If it can cancel the sound of a train going past my house, it can cancel a/c.) I wouldn't want to track a vocal part for music production but a YouTube video presents less of a problem. Cheers.
I live in Croatia as an UK immigrant. When I left the UK to get on the ferry to France I showed my Croatian residency card and UK passport and the French border officer did not stamp my passport. As from 1/1/2023 Croatia will be in the Schengen area.
Will Alfred E. be the next PM?
How will they do them at Dover?
With a gallic shrug!
After all, the queues are a British problem; and happier for it.
If only the Irish would make having Irish great grandparents enough for an Irish passport I`d send in my application tomorrow.
I didn't know being British was so complicated.
It wasn't before Brexit.
As far a I can see, the only way to deal with this is to fly from your EU host country to the UK and then fly out of the UK to your country of destination. Then do the reverse by travelling back to the UK before flying into your host country as this means you'll check in and check out of Schengen. If driving then you just hope not to be stopped within Schengen and whatever you do, don't cross a Schengen border. In that way there are no checks. I cannot see it ever being addressed because all of us that come under the Withdrawal Agreement are an ever decreasing number.
25km traffic collapse in Kent a few weeks ago will be nothing to the things happen in October…..
traffic jam from Dover to city center of London!
without any holiday travel….
With this biometrics check coming in, wouldn't it save time and money if the UK collected this data and make it compatible with the EU system. Not so much to help the EU border officials but to help it's own citizens.
Mind you the very notion of this current government helping it's own citizens is ridiculous I know.
This is indeed an issue, I'm also a brit living in Belgium, last time I went to the UK, no stamps, came back and got a stamp from the french even though I held out my residence card, it was ignored. Well I guess those 90 days ae past now and I wonder what will happen when I next travel to the UK
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Looks to me that your answer is to get French citizenship.
Yes, that is a big worry for me if I plan on going back to Spain with my Spanish girlfriend. I lived in Spain between 2014 And 2019, have a NIE and everything but I will still feel uneasy – I basically have no (or very little rights now). If a border officer, Guardia Civil officer, police officer or civil servant is feeling pissed off that day, they can refuse me entry / boot me out and I have very little immediate comeback to argue the toss. And then the stamp thing really concerns me. Yes, if a border official stamps my passport (mistakenly or if I enter via another EU country), I continue living in Spain 4, 5, 6 months before a return trip to the UK, I could be in big trouble for 'overstaying' my 90 days – and what legal recourse could one turn to in such a situation?!
Good will for Britain has expired after Nigel Farage’s term in European Parliament! He and ERG are still the ones who represented Britain with hate speeches and nothing else to contribute!
I was thinking the other day that if you were for example an Eastern European and you had come to England to work before Brexit, you would of most probably taken English residency. If you now are still staying and working in the UK , you would surely have also loss your freedom of movement for going back to Europe and traveling freely as you now are a resident in a 3rd country and not your native country. This is probably why so many Eastern Europeans have left and there are a shortage of workers left in the UK. Am I correct in thinking this???
17 million numpties voted for this and a huge crowd of numpties stayed at home and so the Brits are now finding out that that have NO freedom of movement thanks to that clown Johnson and his side kick Farage.
Being a remainer I was scared to death of leaving because hadn't a clue like most people what would happen, to me it was like throwing a 20000 piece jigsaw up in the air that you had built up over 45 years connecting to another massive jigsaw 28 times bigger and then trying to put it all back together again but all our bits had turned back to imperial sizes,
I am an UK citizen living in Italy since 2003, last year after after Brexit I was advised by the UK embassy in Rome to apply for my Permesso di soggiorno carta electronica which is a residency card for non eu nationals as I needed to travel to Spain as my Mother had died and I needed to close her estate. I phoned the UK embassy in Rome because of my concerns with traveling within the Schengen area so they advised me to apply for this electronic card, it took three months before I received it then I could travel. I did a return journey without having to show it but it was just in case there was a border check that day ( you never know)
This year I traveled again to Spain but first I was in the UK, I had traveled from Italy to the UK at the passport control office at my local airport I presented my passport and electronic residents card so I did not get my passport stamped, I then traveled to Spain from the UK and at the Spanish passport office presented my passport and Italian residents card and they did not stamp my passport, I did the same when I left Spain for the UK again no stamp. I then traveled back to Italy from the UK again at the passport office no stamp (although I had to tell the officer not to stamp it as he was ready to stamp it, sometimes you need to know more than the people working there).
You can travel to any country in the EU and stay as long as you like but you cannot change your residency any other country within the EU also because of that you cannot change your doctor ( but you can use the countries health service in an emergency using your EU health card) and you must pay your taxes in the country you are resident.
Years ago I travelled with a group of Canadians to England, they had to fill out a landing card, even though their head of state os the English queen, they have to swear alliance to the English crown etc, but arriving in the Motherland, they were treated like someone from Russia.
With my EU I just showed the passport to immigration guy. Guess now I need to get stamped and will be interviewed. Been avoiding England for years now. Had some bad experiences in the dirty, run down Heathrow airport
This is NOT a brexit problem… this is just a problem for non eu citizens residing in one eu state .. but the more i listen to shorty the more i like the way the eu is running
GDPR does not apply to issues related with national security.