His level of self awareness is refreshing.

Wish I could like this interview 100 times 👌🏽

What a beautiful interview

The importance of structures 👌🏽

Dope interview

Part 2 pls. 🙏🏾

Thank you for sharing the link from the other side. This was very informative.

I enjoyed this conversation very much. I see many folks pointing out that Pen was disruptive, judgmental and biased – I think that's great because this is more of a conversation than an interview.

I don't expect Pen to be completely impartial. His biases allow the guest to unpack their thoughts even deeper and with more clarity. Pen is asking Phesheya questions that I would've wanted to ask him and reacting the way I'd react to what Phesheya is saying.

Phesheya is very intelligent, and eloquent and has impressive business acumen. I envy that. It's really dope that he shared his story.

Sho Black Pen I really enjoy your content bro, big ups!

However, I've observed something with your interviews. You can't resist interjecting when a person is telling a story or making a point that raises certain questions or ideas in your head. I get that how hard it can be to fight that temptation, but please work on it bro. I saw how you managed to do that with Rutendo's last interview, please learn from that interview and implement it, as hard as it is. Just let them speak without any interruptions, don't try to control the narrative.

Give thanks!

Penuel seems to have had pre-conceived notions about wealthy people, he was not willing to part with. His aim might have been to 'ask the hard questions', that however backfired, and instead he came across as combative, judgemental and stubborn. He wasn't in it to learn a new perspective but to confirm his own biases and essentially undermine the guest's experiences. Though, I love how Phesheya rose above all that judgement and hostility, to shine in this interview. Penuel, you need to work on your own biases and preconceptions, let the guest tell their story. Your interviewing skills lacked in this

Lot of menteers would benefit from you!Siyabonga

Abafikanga nawe mosi 😅😅…. Ngempela futhi mfwe2 abafikanga naye..

Sho Penuel, Social Workers are therapists and they can operate in the counseling space. Brilliant conversation here

Pen always interrupts with new questions just as the guest gets to the point of answering the previous question. It’s frustrating.

The word of God says that a righteous man leave an inheritance for his children 's children.I started at the foundation and i cannot allow my children to start at the foundation when they can start at the ceiling.When they start at the ceiling they will have new struggles. We are all born with different paths in life.

Who..what..when..where..why..how..what there after….military language.

Pen, this needs a part 2 please… I enjoyed the conversation, learnt a lot… thanks brothers!

The interview was great for bringing the guest but he was very judgemental. His remarks imply that he is too good for certain things but each person has a struggle. Just let the interviewee speak man

The girls who throw themselves to these guys who offer all these money solutions suffer from low self-esteem, we have daddy issues we troubled, we don't know who we are what we have to offer in this world qoute on qoute.

I was a waiter a some point in my life and I met such a guy, he'd get pleasure from just seeing me, he'd walk in the store nobody attended him but me and when I was helping him he'd wanty full attention my mangers would take my other tables and I would attend to him alone even when he came with his "girlfriends" I'd be his waiter.

When he came alone he'd order a bottle of wine drink a glass and leave me a R1000 tip every single time he was in my province and he wouldn't talk much I knew he was wealthy and came from a previllaged background , but we would have general conversations and he'd leave and travel back to Gauteng only text me that once his driver picked him up and his messages would always be it was good seeing you, I'm happy I got to spend time with you etc… Until I found a partner and I couldn't entertain him anymore and I stopped communication with him and we only spoke when he was around when he left we were stagers …. Such a humble person he was then

When Penuel asked about spending on girls and not taking even one home…. Newcastle kicked in 🤣🤣🤣

This is what most of us go through in life listen to this interview there hope some of us will find our way again great interview

Brilliant

Some people are lucky to grow up with parents who supported them through thick and thin, then the is us who had difficulty in navigating life, no supporting structure at all, only aunties and uncles who reminded us how useless we are.

This Penuel fellow can be shallow at times. Just because you host a show doesn't mean that you are knowledgeable across all subject matters. Also learn to listen for comprehension, that's what dialogue is all about

Penuel is an excellent listener, which explains why he has six children. His ability to remain calm and present is extraordinary. The guy can recall like made. Jordan Peterson has inspired many weak men to become strong. Truth is what redeem the world from hell. This was very therapeutic, great work guys. The truth is what saves the world from hell. This was extremely therapeutic; excellent work, guys. True conversations redeem people, and Penuel, if you can do more podcasts of a therapeutic nature, you can help so many young people like myself become better at a faster rate. Don't let Nkulenko Nkewu (with respect and humility to the guy) limit you to being just a content creator because he keeps saying that a lot but to me you are much more than that maybe because I am unhappy with my being who knows but thanks guys.

This guy is has jams. It’s unfortunate that Penuel is not a good interviewer. Most people who are so opinionated don’t realise that interviewing someone is a whole different ball game.

This Guys Honesty +

For that amount of money, them girls would have to be contortionists or something! There is no parallel universe where I'm parting with that amount of money for nothing! No sir!

Great conversation! Thanks for sharing these critical journeys. Life is definitely not a straight path but journey of discovery.

This one right here unpacked so much. It is weird how the person who worked for what they have will in a room , look at Phesheya and feel out of place. In the same breath Phesheya looks at that person and their achievement's and feel inadequate. When did we as black people adopt this view of ourselves?. Siyabonga black pen and a special appreciation to Duma for sharing your experiences you have lived a life.

Sometimes one appreciates a company of people with no intentions beyond company!
I see nothing wrong with that!

This video and Rob Hersov are my favourite. Eish Shout out to Mr Duma

Thanks my brother your topic is educational.

I like it at the end when its fill in the blanks 😊

I’ve walked that journey and to a certain extent it brought solace. My circle of influence were under the impression that I may have won thé lottery, not knowing that I was blowing cash that was invested for a certain purpose. That breakup messed me up big time.

Real conversation here. I can relate so much with this Brother's story. Your Father is a Solid Man. As young men growing up we need that structure and discipline so we are secured in ourselves and can be productive, confident, intelligent Men. What a wholesome conversation. Salute!

Informative and insightful conversation.
Thanks, #blackpen for this type of content

Same voice as marawa

Absolutely enjoyed this episode. Has to be in my top 3. Way too muh insight for my liking. I could personally relate to a lot of personality traits Phesheya has/had. It also almost seems like I saw a future version of myself, it's difficult to explain but it is what it is, being the same age as him and all.

“The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.” ― Albert Einstein

What a brilliant conversation

Always love these conversations. Keeping on giving us Good Content Penuel.

Can we have a part 2 please 🙏

What a great conversation bro !!!! 😪

I can relate with what he is saying so much