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They wanted us to pay for WHAT??? | Finding an Apartment in Lisbon Portugal

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They wanted us to pay for WHAT??? | Finding an Apartment in Lisbon Portugal

We finally found a new apartment in Lisbon! It was quite the process, so we’re talking about where we found it, using a realtor, furnished vs unfurnished, contract negotiations, setting up utilities , and more!

Apartment locating sites: idealista.pt, remax.pt, century21.pt, casa.sapo.pt, OLX.pt

Realtors: Ian & Fabrizio: projectlisboa.com, Ricard Fonseca: ricardo.fonseca@century21.pt

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0:00 start
0:46 Where to look for apartments
1:07 Using a realtor
2:48 Furnished vs unfurnished
3:23 Contract negotiations
9:32 Setting up utilities
11:50 Our apartment

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33 COMMENTS

  1. Wow this was fantastic information. You got a great deal. I totally am with you on noisy places. I hope to find something like your new place, even if it’s just for me. I will use your resources as well. This will be the most challenging aspect of my D7 visa process for sure. Thanks 🙏🏼 for the post and details. Look forward to your next vid.

  2. Hi guys, good to have u back in 🇵🇹. What a beautiful apt you got!!! 😳 😱 It is gorgeous, but be careful with central AC. I have it in all rooms. I live in Santarém which is blazing hot and on a last floor, large apto. If you run your AC like in the US, it can be incredibly expensive. I use it only when I am in the bedroom and I cross ventilate during the day with windows open, as I have 5 huge sliding windows. Enjoy Estrela, it is a wonderful neighborhood. 🤗❤️🇵🇹

  3. Great video, I’m really happy for you guys. I just moved from Florida to Lisbon, I’m currently living in expo area temporary. I’ll will move to Avenidas Noves with my daughter in a few weeks. 👍

  4. Super helpful video! Is it expensive to transfer money? Estrela is a nice neighborhood and a fun place to rent. How long did it take for you to find your place? Best of luck and enjoy Lisbon. Such an amazing city!

  5. I find that legal clause about the Sun damage being your responsibility completely ridiculous!
    That means you cannot enjoy the Sun light, for which those windows were built for, without fearing how much it will cost you!
    These landlords are becoming a bit out of control with their demands!
    When I noticed the tree behind you waking up and checking around I freaked out!
    With regards to the "Loja do Cidadao" it is not because we find it only efficient but also because we doubt our ability to fill in forms correctly or we fear being responsible for wrong information so, by having a specialized agent or individual telling you exactly how it goes became part of a routine! Besides that, going to the "Loja do Cidadao" is a good reason as any to go out and having a coffee or meet your friends!
    The more you get used to do everything from your home, the less you will tolerate others around you and it is never good for your mental health!

  6. We just signed a 3-year lease and paid 4 months up front (2 rent payments and 2 months worth for a security deposit). It was kind of a scary commitment, but we knew it was just something we were going to have to deal with. In addition, one thing we realized is that we will be paying rent on an apartment we can’t live in while our visa is in process. Can’t wait to join you all in Lisbon soon!

  7. Another great video Michelle and Dan! Curious of the duration between when you first identified the property and signing the lease. It seems so stressful to have to do this from the US. We are determined though! Thanks again!

  8. Hi Dan & Michelle, thank you as always for your awesome videos and info! My partner and I are in the process applying for our D7. We've got our appt. in SF next month and then hopefully moving to PT in August! We're working with a Remax realtor to help us find a year long lease to satisfy the SF office (because it sounds like we need a year lease for SF), but I keep wondering about Flatio as it seems like such an easier option. I know you guys went through DC and housing requirements are less strict there, but can you speak at all about us potentially using Flatio for a short term place for when we first land?

  9. Thank you for sharing this information. Property owners are getting ridiculous with their rental rates and requirements for U.S. citizens. They would never require or ask those things of Portuguese citizens but because more and more people are moving to Portugal from other countries, pretty soon Portugal is going to be overpriced and people will start to consider other countries. I know three people who moved from Portugal for this reason. The only other alternative is to move 30-45 minutes away from Lisbon or live in substandard apartments within the city.

    $1700 euros is approximately $1850 – $1900 USD based on the exchange rate, which is quite high based on the average income of most Portuguese.

  10. Hello , have you heard of a rental site called Uniplaces , they provide furnished apartments , as well a Certificate of accommodation for Visas , have you had any experience or have heard from anyone that has done business with this rental site , Idealista is OK but the properties seem a little run down and over priced ,

  11. Hi Dan & Michelle, thank you for another informative video. =) I love what you guys did with the window treatment, it brings it to another level (so I can see why the landlord would want to keep it) with respect to viewing the Apts multiple times (through various hrs (ie: morning evening, weekends)), how accommodating are the property managers? Looking forward to your video on furnishing/delivery of goods on the apt. Cheers!

  12. Finding an apartment is a pain. I hope yours has a good balance for you. I had one with an amazing view but I found that the whole apartment was designed around that and the impracticality of the space was annoying longer temr

  13. Hi Dan and Michelle! Awesome video, I’m always checking back on your channel eager for the next upload. Thanks for all the info you share.

    We applied to PT’s D7 visa as well and one thing that we’re researching extensively are the taxes. I know in one of your most recent videos you mentioned taxes and how you guys are still figuring out the whole situation for that. My question is, before deciding to move to Portugal did you have an idea of how much your taxes would be in PT or if you were going to qualify for the NHR program?

    I know you may not have all the tax answers but we most likely won’t qualify for the NHR due to the nature of our remote jobs. We’re worried our taxes will be close to 40%, more or less. Are you in the same boat? Or does you get taxed differently because Honeymoon Always is your own company and you are paying yourselves as employees or on the other hand sole proprietors?

    We want to create an LLC before we hopefully arrive in PT but we don’t know what’s the best way to not be taxed a fortune.

    Hopefully these questions are not too intrusive or personal. Would absolutely appreciate if you could share some insight if you yourselves have been able to obtain that. Thanks again for the awesome vids!

  14. Negotiation? in cities close to the beach? In big cities or in Algarve?
    Good luck with that. the market is completely crazy. Everyone want to come to Portugal lots of retirees from the EU because the cost of living have increasingly grow this past year (inflation) in north of Europe.
    Our Government estimates inflation at 4% in the end of this year (most because the cost of housing) and maintains deficit forecast at less than 2%, even with this war. And normally they dont fail their predictions, and last year they had better numbers then predicted.
    My brother work in a local parish council (Junta de Freguesia) and he tell me about the record numbers they issue in certificates of address for other nationalities within the EU.

    If you buy a house last year, now the house have grow in value about more than 20%.

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