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Testing Motorcycle Traction controls (KTM 390Adventure)

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Testing Motorcycle Traction controls (KTM 390Adventure)

I have trust issues with electronic aids on motorcycles… most of it due to the fact that they only work in very specific situations, yet, most bikes insist in turnig them ON every chance they can.

This time I am testing the so called Motorcycle Traction Control on the KTM 390 Adventure and I must say I came to some pretty solid conclusions!
Does it even work? Does it help at all? Well..spoiler alert: I am willing to accept that there are systems out there capable of delivering what they promised, but we dont get them in all the bikes, as I show on this video…

-Diogo Guerra
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  1. You're good man. Very enjoyable videos.
    I only used the TC off road once in a borrowed DTC Africa Twin and that combination worked surprisingly well climbing on grass with mixed tyres.

  2. I doubt people think like you think they think.
    TC always limits power to driven wheels in order to sustain traction, this is true for cars just the same.
    Your example is afaik wrong. A 4X4 does not climb a hill because of TC but because it drives all 4 wheels at the same speed finding traction more easily. That is why a good 4×4 also has locking differentials: It then drives all 4 wheels at the same speed REGARDLESS of traction. TC in a off-road car is also off or very limited when being off-road… so no TC does not make a 4×4 climb a hill, if anything TC will prevents a 4×4 from climbing a hill.
    And I think most people interested in any motor vehicle understand this just fine.

    7:50 that is a legal requirement in Europe. ABS and TC need to be on when the bike is turned on. There is a loop hole that the setting maybe stored if the bike is not turned off completely e.g. when just stalls. So as long as the ignition is on the setting is stored. If you turn off the ignition the setting will reset. There is no other way, it is a legal requirement.

    TC is a good thing and helps to keep the bike under control in less than ideal grip conditions on the road e.g. during rain. Adventure bikes are driven mostly on roads after all.
    Bikes the manufacturer expect to see off-road use either have driving modes or a TC off mode. There is really nothing wrong with that.

  3. I think you were spot on with the gun comparison. Neither are good or bad, it just depends on the way they are used! Why would you use traction control on sand?! But if that keeps you from tasting the highway pavement on a rainy day even once in your life time… That's money well spent on my book!

  4. Thanks a lot for the video. First for the laugh. Second to show that on a dirt riding situation traction control is useless, and worst a nuisance. Off road riding it's using dynamics to get through, able to slide the rear wheel in a tight turn, lighting as needed the front wheel, compressing and decompressing the suspensions to pass a tree trunk or a big rock, keeping it going forward with a rear wheel spinning on the wet dead leaves, wet grass, gravel, sand, mud make your choice…
    Surely it's useful under the rain with a 200 HP bike on asphalt, but on off road there is no utility. I imagine the engine cutting off when you're in the middle of a greasy muddy climb with your big 230 kg recalcitrant elephant ready to crush you a leg at the moment you need the most momentum to stay upright…
    That's the problem of the innovation race marketing where innovation is not meant to improve the product but to sell more or to justify a higher price. And adding almost useless electronics is the cheapest way for a motorcycle producer to justify high prices, or to sell that is in fact an inferior bike, or the two at the same time. I would prefer better suspensions to any electronic aid.

  5. Sou do mesmo pensamento que você Diogo….Eu estou pensando em tirar o ABS frontal da minha XTZ Lander já que não tenho a opção de desligar…. No asfalto é ótimo, mas off road é terrível 👎

  6. I agree that all the electronics stuff was made for the road and probably works well there especially for speed demons on fast bikes. If they just set it up so that there was one button that COMPLETELY disconnected the electronics I would say 'fine'. Thing is they don't 'disconnect' they turn them 'off' but if you have a fault in one your bike is still crippled in all modes, sometimes to the point it will not run at all. That is a terrible situation to be in when your off road (off course 🙂 ) and your bike dies because of a system you are not even using or do not need takes a dump. Second the damn EU law that ABS has to reset every time you turn your bike off and restart. Real PITA when that happens in the middle of a hill climb. Restart the bike, fiddle with the electronics all while holding the bike in a precarious position!

  7. great expose of offroad TC, but more than that, thanks for showing your classic "disclaimer" at the very beginning – it's pure creative gold, puts a big grin on my face every time!!!

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